tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post8133015743034187916..comments2023-10-24T19:10:17.771-07:00Comments on The High-fat Hep C Diet: Pyridoxine – Toxicity and Deficiency, and the balance between B6 and protein.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-41837364248175538942018-01-31T19:06:46.283-08:002018-01-31T19:06:46.283-08:00Hi,
no-one on the curing B6 toxicity facebook gro...Hi,<br /><br />no-one on the curing B6 toxicity facebook groups have mentioned collagen loss. <br />They've posted studies confirming that high blood levels of B6 inhibit the formation of PLP (the active form) which explains why some (not all) symptoms are similar to B6 deficiency.<br />I don't believe in avoiding B6 from natural food sources (as opposed to fortified) because these will also supply everything needed for the proper use of B6. The difference between supplement levels and levels in foods is huge, so cutting foods would only contribute a tiny bit to lowering blood levels, and my symptoms got better without avoiding any natural food because of B6. Of course there may be cases where people have unusual responses to foods but that's unlikely to be related to cases of over-supplementation.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-43259980865668810212018-01-31T17:31:54.223-08:002018-01-31T17:31:54.223-08:00Just to elaborate - the reason I really want (nee...Just to elaborate - the reason I really want (need) to understand is because I am trying to sort out whether or not I may have fluoroquinolone toxicity. Other B6 toxic people don't seem to have this collagen problem. Other than the collagen my symptoms and timing seem more like B6 toxicity and got really bad after increasing B6 supplementation. But, if B6 toxicity can affect the ability to use B6 and B6 is necessary for collagen synthesis then I guess B6 toxicity could be the cause of my collagen loss. Please do answer my questions for clarification from my post just before this, but do you have any other advice on sorting this out. Also, I made a friend request to your Facebook. The initials that correspond to me name are G.L. and I would sincerely appreciate your help. Thank you.Curioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495994407625167213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-2906754046149484482018-01-31T09:21:41.045-08:002018-01-31T09:21:41.045-08:00Thank you. Would you please explain further about...Thank you. Would you please explain further about these two statements as I truly want to understand what I am dealing with? "We think B6 toxicity is in part a loss-of-function for B6 enzyme action." and "the toxicity impairs the use of B6." Also, as I heal from the toxicity should I be able to get back to normal B6 function? And, I have been limiting B6 food so if that has caused some of the collagen loss should resuming normal B6 food intake eventually "put the collagen back?"Curioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495994407625167213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-70623217083100517742018-01-30T13:50:20.425-08:002018-01-30T13:50:20.425-08:00I can only say that B6 will be important for formi...I can only say that B6 will be important for forming some of the amino acids needed for collagen if they're not adequate in the diet.<br />We think B6 toxicity is in part a loss-of-function for B6 enzyme action. So supplementing collagen and eating gelatin (bone broth, tendons, etc) will increase the supply of amino acids like proline and glycine. Vitamin C is also the critical factor in collagen strength. I would use a mixed antioxidant supplement as well as collagen. Don't cut natural B6 in your diet, only avoid supplemental forms - it's a fine line between toxicity and deficiency because the toxicity impairs the use of B6.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-3903346749711900502018-01-30T13:21:51.183-08:002018-01-30T13:21:51.183-08:00I have B6 toxicity, diagnosed 9 months ago. Tinni...I have B6 toxicity, diagnosed 9 months ago. Tinnitus is gone, however neuropathy remains but improving very, very slowly. I also have cold hands and feet and tight muscles and many other symptoms. I have a very odd problem from the toxicity I'm hoping you may explain. My collagen has been decimated. It happened suddenly and severely. Doctor says it looks like large sudden weight loss. Another doctor says it looks like 10-20 year aging in just a month. Can you think of any reason B6 toxicity may have caused it? Could it be oxidative stress from the toxicity and can you think of anything to do to improve it? Do you think it might improve as toxicity comes out of body? Oddly, the bulk of it came after stopping the B6 supplement.Curioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495994407625167213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-25392324784191065632017-10-03T17:44:11.109-07:002017-10-03T17:44:11.109-07:00Hi Bindy,
Tumours after DAA are very rare and are...Hi Bindy,<br /><br />Tumours after DAA are very rare and are in people at high risk anyway; the virus was protecting them by stimulating immunity. But HCV was also the cause of the cancer, so overall the long-term risk is reduced by eliminating it (this was even shown in interferon trials).<br /><br />I don't worry too much about fish (I'm eating it for the DHA, which is still there in farmed salmon), I get sardines in spring water or olive oil. Generally purer is better but there are just so many areas where this doesn't matter; we need to choose our battles and getting fed is one of them!<br />http://hopefulgeranium.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/counsels-of-perfection.html<br />I don't recommend ALA oil - if you must have some, eat some ground linseed or LSA. Lamb fat supplies some, so will wallabies and 'roos.<br /><br /><br />Epclusa (Sofosbuvir and 1 other drug, Velpatasvir) is the combo I had for Geno3, it worked very well, 98% success rate (100% in the trial I was in), very short course, minimal side effects and nothing serious. I would not add anything else to this - it is tried and tested as it is.<br />If your TGs are low then it looks like you're very insulin sensitive, which you can be on any diet, not just low carb, and which is good. Could you increase VL by adding butter to carbs? Yes indeed, though I would expect TGs to go up too - very odd that they didn't if those tests are done at one time.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-53192816601164331022017-10-03T16:39:38.395-07:002017-10-03T16:39:38.395-07:00pART 2. Hi G.
I did not cut down carbs like you d...pART 2. Hi G.<br />I did not cut down carbs like you do/did. I actually am part pig I must admit,<br />or calf, as I graze all day long!<br /><br />I'm a natural gutz/grazer & didn't see the harm w nuts/veggies & fruit before. <br /><br />Maybe all that tomato paste I ate from jar w olive oil made too much insulin?<br /><br />But my fasting blood test with the * 0.4 EXTREMELY LOW TriGlycerides.( * under lowest number in range) Doesn't that show I was well below carb level?<br /><br />Though I know myself I ate STACKS of veggies/broccoli (for magnesium/calcium & glutathione) bare or w olive oil or cheese.<br /><br />I used to buy Dead Sea salt or Celtic salt in California,years ago, but not there now. (it was wet & grey - Natural) Mercola. com raved about health benefits of Himalayan pink salt. I probably only ate that for a few months before VL test, but on every single thing, every mouthful. I probably overdid it like all the other stuff? But had been using Iodised sea salt for years before that. Do you think Iodised sea salt is okay? table salt has that bad stuff added to make it flow better.<br /><br />I started stuffing with butter occasionally, to increase my Total cholesterol, which was ALWAYS asterked in the past as LOW *.(from being vegetarian usually)<br /><br />Mercola said he always had low cholesterol & cold feet/hands so he ate butter to increase it to increase cholesterol & his circulation.<br /><br />Stuffing w butter increased my cholesterol by far, but DID NOT increase my circulation, & PERHAPS has contributed to way INCREASED Viral Load.<br /><br />When I finally got the VL high numbers back, I stopped doing all those things I was doing in excess before while trying to fix my HCV.<br />So, DO YOU RECOMMEND taking the ALA capsules please?<br /><br />DID YOU HAVE GENOTYPE 3A? <br /><br />But what about the researcher working for Gilead who said Nov 2016 that after following about 3,000? patients for 10 months during & after DAA treatment, that some patients developed previously undiagnosed EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE HEPATIC TUMORS????<br /><br />THAT is the kind of thing I was most afraid of, not just the symptoms whilst taking the drugs. But the FUTURE LONG TERM POSSIBLE BUT YET OF COURSE UNKNOWN RAMIFICATIONS of that treatment. (because to me, as a 'purist' the drug just seemed 'too good to be true' 'TOO EASY') Starving the liver's own kind of little 'immune' system, by feeding all those inhibitors etc hard core for so long, can stop it's own little 'Security' system for watching out for other bad things which might be happening whilst taking the drugs dont' you think maybe?????<br /><br />I have lots more questions so will return later on. Thank you George!Brindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696816846157272145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-88154800151731290162017-10-03T16:38:41.380-07:002017-10-03T16:38:41.380-07:00Hi HG, PART 1
Than q so much 4 reply!(never got au...Hi HG, PART 1<br />Than q so much 4 reply!(never got auto email notfctn & everytime I clicked on old http link, your answer never showed up, nor going to your blog page & manually checking. Had to do a search for VitB6 causes neuropathy today to finally get to this comments page for my answer!)<br /><br />I forgot to mention last time that I ate salmon kind of regularly plus fresh cooked sardines for a while, but the salmon all farmed, so has tons of toxins/fed crap/ no normal eating of life forms which give salmon it's natural orange color, they are injected with dye, so seem kind of almost worthless to eat because of the diet they are fed. REAL unfarmed salmon is only obtained in cans; cooked/heated to massive degrees for HOURS, then canned in who knows what kind of tin whose elements seep into the fish. The sardines (REAL caught at sea/natural diet so provide Omega3 etc still) I ate whole, which I also fed my dog WHOLE as recommended, but that meant I was eating it's pooh too, & they didn't taste nice. But most tinned sardines are in soy or crap oil. Even if u wash them, they contain oil. Other real salmon is smoked which gives nitrates.<br />I know you're a SuperScientific Guy, (my hero type in HCV & stuff I'm interested in) so u<br />probly have a less 'emotional' way of thinking about health & food, & more xyz/ ab + c = Y, whatever, mathematical/factual/ kind of thinking/approach, whereas I'm Ms Hippy/skipping through buttercups in the sun type,& can't get away from 'natural/pure' is best thinking/feeling. 'purist/Naturalist', & shy away from artificial/fake stuff.<br />I met w DAA drug docs x 2 before. Maybe it was 3 month treatment w the latest which treats MANY Gentotypes now. I personally thought I think I'd rather take 2 of the drugs available the year before to take, than the one which treats every type of HCV GT ever found w one tablet, as maybe then you might be getting a lot of extra poison to cover the whole lot, instead of chemicals needed to just get rid of your OWN single type??? (you might be up on <br />the exact inhibitors provided by the older 2 drug treatment, versus the one size kills all latest drug?)<br />You just guessing that maybe my last VL was perhaps a blip (do you mean a 'mistake' or just a one short burst of high v load but back to normal soon after the test?) was a REALLY big<br />jump, like almost 4 times my lower VL. I had 250,000 3 months before that, which went down to the 203900. I think in 2001, it was 600,000 but I was taking pain drugs, & even drank red wine (I hate alcohol taste) which relaxed my capillaries/arterioles/muscles whatever, & then my feet weren't like ice, & blood flowed. (this is when I had bed rest for a year w no movement, & windows wide open for fresh air even in winter so freezing!)<br /><br />I was doing fine last year, until I then decided I would heal the hcv myself without the drugs. Thats' when the VL shot up so high, after me going whole hog, & consuming all those foods anti-ox stuff I thought would help me. <br /><br />Brindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696816846157272145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-88932222698143884512017-10-02T15:05:11.842-07:002017-10-02T15:05:11.842-07:00P.S.,
I would just use iodised table salt - why r...P.S.,<br /><br />I would just use iodised table salt - why risk iodine deficiency, which will make everything more complicated? I do only use iodised table salt myself.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-30206742644425223722017-10-02T15:01:21.290-07:002017-10-02T15:01:21.290-07:00Hi Brindy,
I had selenosis at one time, but I don...Hi Brindy,<br /><br />I had selenosis at one time, but I don't remember it increasing VL. It just went away; I don't know what would help remove it - maybe Vit C? If you supplement NAC the cysteine will compete with selenium in places like muscles, hair, nails and reduce side effects. Toxicity from brazil nuts is rare compared with toxicity from supps - do you have changes in nails and do people say you smell strange? These are good signs of selenosis.<br />Fish-oil type fatty acids are antiviral for HCV should reduce viral load, so eat sardines and salmon regularly, if you want to supplement krill oil is better than fish oil. This is better than choosing meats as sources of ALA, which won't make much difference.<br />Coconut oil is fine, however it's processed, it ought to help the VL.<br />You want sun exposure to the rate that you can tan as summer approaches, not a lot if you're not able to tan or already tanned. Tanning is your protection against cancer and sign that Vit D is being synthesised so build it up before the sun gets too strong in the year, then cover up mostly after that (but only use sunblock when excess exposure can't be avoided with clothing, as when swimming). Will too much UV hurt your liver? Only if you burn I think, because this will trigger inflammation.<br />The drug combo you want for Geno3 is called Epclusa, and you should be able to source it relatively cheaply and safely through a buyer's club with a little research. A course only lasts 6-8 weeks and in my experience has minimal side effects, comparable to drinking an extra cup of coffee, i.e. you wish you hadn't but it's not that bad and you soon get used to it.(Most people feel nothing)<br />To get my VL down, I had to cut carbs under 50g before tests - try to be keto. Over that there was a normal variation eventually. So going keto would cut the VL, this would last a while, then it would creep up and over 50g wasn't related to carbs (though other symptoms were).<br />Someone reported to me the other day that using one of those vibration plates that are hyped for weight loss improved their brother's diabetic neuropathy, without weight loss. Just an anecdote, but interesting if stimulating circulation in feet and legs improves nerves.<br />As well as restricting iron you can try restricting dietary cholesterol - at least on a day or two every week. I'm loath to suggest this as it should be less relevant in low carb context and could cause you to skip beneficial foods, but there is some evidence for it in people with Hep C on normal diets.<br />That said, your lipid results are excellent. Nothing wrong with having higher LDL when you have HCV - it predicts less fibrosis, better antiviral response, lower risk of diabetes, better health all round. Those are in fact GREAT lipids for you (and VL could just be a blip.<br />If you're not already, I suggest supplementing zinc (gluconate is probably best form available) 30mg/day as there is good evidence for this as stand-alone; it brought my ALT and AST down to within normal range and stopped leg cramps.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-34140954789008706072017-10-02T07:02:59.762-07:002017-10-02T07:02:59.762-07:00Hello George,(HG) PART 1. GenType3a Can you help m...Hello George,(HG) PART 1. GenType3a Can you help me please,with an acute dietary dilemma, re how to quickly get rid of excessive (found out hurtful, after increased Viral Load results) overdose of selenium (have long-term chronic hcv) safely?<br /><br />For 10 months I enthusiastically followed net advice & (instead of suggested synthetic 3,000 gms) I ate 12 brazil nuts each day,plus Mercola.com advice of Grassfed beef (for ALA) ( about 7 Kilos over 8 months, plus 2K kangaroo (as grass fed too, but all too much iron) with my idea of hcv anti-ox diet of 50-100 gms dark Lindt 90% chocolate, 1 huge avocado, 4-5 cups tea, 3 oranges (same time) tonnes white pepper, tonnes oregano, tonnes Himalayan pink rock salt, massive icebergs of org.butter on teensy pita bread, & dumbly 1/2 -1 jar tomato paste mixed w same amount EV olive oil sometimes, & lots of broccoli etc. & raw carrots.(other veg occasionally) & eggs as usual. <br />End up w Viral Load of 778,000 up from 203,900 year before & WAY WAY worse sensory/ P.Neuropathy this winter than other winters.. (though I didn't walk much as I did other years, as my dog was sick) (Don't test + for Cryoglobumins, but micro-inflammation of nerves can occur either way) Triglycerides 0.4 (*1 below lowest range) <br />HDL 2.0 <br />LDL 3.4 (I used to ALWAYS have HIGHER HDL/LOWER LDL before, but as I stuffed with butter this year (never did b4) got different numbers & instead of a * TOO LOW overall cholesterol, got a *5.6 (same as last year from eating butter).<br />AST *66 *(up 1 from year before)<br />ALT *94 *(up 1 from year before) <br /><br />I also lay in the sun long periods to make more Vitamin D w my eaten butter, (but now read that UV radiation can hurt HCV liver?)<br />Ate coconut oil too.(even though it's called RAW they use heat to process it & it tastes nothing like a real coconut)<br />I had a few stints of eating cheap lamb chops too, forgetting about too much iron but trying to get some protein.(Iron normal 21.2) <br />Vit D.90. <br /><br />8 months PRIOR, Fibroscan 3.4 (suggestive of normal/minimal fibrosis) (Perhaps I m;ight have a higher FS result to correspond with Viral Load increase) I've never had any kind of cirrhosis, or any problems at ALL w my liver, except the P.N. Sensory neuropathy in legs & feet. (plus many other places before, when I had severe injuries) (Continued above in Part 2 sorry!)<br />Brindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696816846157272145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-75080675633326299512017-10-02T06:59:02.544-07:002017-10-02T06:59:02.544-07:00Part 2. Hi George! HG. GT3a
I was so so disappoin...Part 2. Hi George! HG. GT3a<br /><br />I was so so disappointed to get the increased V load results & have so much more Neuropathic pain this winter. (always get P.N over 7 mths of cold weather;)<br />I asked Dr for a selenium toxicity test, or how to get rid of but he just said stop taking it. <br /><br />If plant polyphenols will chelate iron, will they also chelate selenium? But which ones to not be stuffing with carbs? <br />Grapefruit & orange pith?<br /><br />I also later, recently, bought Alpha Lipoic Acid caps, & taking them, but did I just read you said it was a bad oil? Please could you help me & answer soon?<br /><br />I have other interesting self experiment/diet over time/GOOD data to share also. Thank you so much George for your fantastic research & info, which I only just found yesterday after wading through miles of only typical medical normal garbage until yours! I was doing the LCHF for years (mainly just full fat dairy & eggs) as I can't usually stand eating animals, but had never read SatFat was good for HCV, as they all rave about LOWfat.<br /><br />Would u tend to agree my Viral load went up due to high selenium?<br />&/or iron from the beef/roo/lamb? (as I never usually eat meat but was trying to not get PN sensory pain this winter)<br />or maybe also from all that tomato paste, but I ate it usually with tonnes of olive oil & oregano.<br />I was eating SO MUCH Hiimalayan salt, resulting in the increased Viral load & worse PN, & now I read that salt is BAD FOR THE LIVER. (but u encourage salt) SOMETHING made my numbers rise suddenly, & I never ever drink alcohol. oh, I also ate LOTS OF NUTMEG & cinnamon for a time, in raw egg-nog I made. ( I heated the vanilla first if I used it) with cloves.<br /><br />This winter, I kept all doors/windows tightly shut all night, instead of letting in air, & many nights I've had super dry mouth, which I never had in my life, & cracked lips, even tho I put coconut oil on them. Maybe too much protein/salt(before?<br /><br />I am too afraid to do the anti viral drugs, as I know myself, & like 'natural' so much, & do not trust medical drugs usually, or believing doctors only want to help you. (even if they really do, their beliefs are often different than mine)<br />If I was taking those drugs for 6 months, I know that the very first headache, or feeling of nausea or insomnia etc. I would just want to STOP, as it would feel I was hurting/poisoning myself, & they are so new, without history, & no real follow up. You are so lucky you are cured & so far seem fine! I also followed some forums, & people complained of newfound neuropathic symptoms, & their doctors didn't take them seriously & basically told them to get lost. These neurological symptoms sometimes stayed way longer after the treatment was over, & no one was helping them. <br /><br />Thank you so much George for any help/advice you might be able to give me please?! Brindy<br />Brindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696816846157272145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-58380289175352357772017-10-01T15:39:53.371-07:002017-10-01T15:39:53.371-07:00Hi James,
there is no MSG or preservative in milk...Hi James,<br /><br />there is no MSG or preservative in milk, yoghurt or butter. Of course you could be sensitive to casein, which often accompanies gluten intolerance. In this case ghee would be okay, everything except milk might be tolerated in small amounts mixed in meals. Mik and fake yoghurts made with milk solids are really the foods to avoid. As far as I know you will recover from a short B6 exposure, though the effects can be terrifying. If you become deficient in vitamins, protein, energy, your neuropathy might get worse - so it's worth eating foods like meats and fish occasionally until you find types you can tolerate - lamb is probably the best meat for someone with sensitivities.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-28933538383751338102017-09-15T03:51:24.115-07:002017-09-15T03:51:24.115-07:00James. B6 Toxicity causes severe anxiety in most p...James. B6 Toxicity causes severe anxiety in most people who become toxic and can cause severe panic attacks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01559503736611795746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-38742689812552693062017-09-14T22:17:58.109-07:002017-09-14T22:17:58.109-07:00Unfortunately is was b complex and other multi vit...Unfortunately is was b complex and other multi vitmains. the only ones in dangerous doses were the b vitamins so it was a combination of all of them. the folate was also particularly high at around 2000 mcgs a day. So I might have done more damage than I know of. If i eat any carbs like oats or rice Iget this soar of energy through my mind, intense detachment and outrageous anxiety. If I eat high B6 meals like meat or fish, I then get severe burning in my skin. So I fear I might have done more damage as I say. I have a lot of regret in this regard as I always thought that more vitamins are better and that they cannot hurt. I took 6 different forms of B-complex and multivitamins each day for 4 days, on one day I took them all morning and again at night, really really regrettable and stupid. I guess the damage is done. the other problem is that with this comes a massive sensitivity to msg and other preservatives so things like butter, yogurt and milk are also no goes for me. the only stable foods for me are eggs and vegetables low in b6. But thank you George, I guess the head issues might be more than just damage from B6. the neuropathy in my legs skin and arms is definitely from B6 I would assume. Seems like I have generally just poisoned my nervous system generally beyond repair and I am reasonably terrified. Worst of all is that my body wont hold weight, and I think the next stop is hospitalization. Thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475639245696641570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-69921093574952698242017-09-14T12:55:42.254-07:002017-09-14T12:55:42.254-07:00Hi James, I guess I was quite used to feelings of ...Hi James, I guess I was quite used to feelings of anxiety before the B6 thing so it was relief to find a solid cause for some of the things I was anxious about. It sounds like you need to eat more - deficiencies of other B vits, protein, essential fats won't be helping.<br />I recommend eating as many eggs, lightly cooked with butter and salt, as you can for breakfast - it is hard not to be grounded both psychically and somatically by eating such a nutrient dense, high protein food.<br />I found nicotinamide (a form of B3) was the best antianxiety supplement, 500mg 2-3x a day. This sensitises the brain to GABA. It's also one of the things you need B6 to make, so might decrease the effect of a disordered B6 metabolism. Magnesium supps might also help. Also consider whether your vitamin D level will be adequate, this is another deficiency that feeds into feelings of fragility.<br />What dose of B6 did you take? I don't think permanent brain damage is very likely from B6 alone, especially over a short term. That you have periods with no symptoms is hopeful. 5 weeks is not long at all, that's the "coasting" effect, and things will improve over the longer term.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-73811400973969063272017-09-14T05:58:34.727-07:002017-09-14T05:58:34.727-07:00If I could ask another question. were any of your ...If I could ask another question. were any of your symptoms a feeling of slight psychosis early on. like you were going crazy. I have nerve pain in my legs, but I get this brain fog coupled with this sense that I'm losing my mind and high high body anxiety. It has been 5 weeks now and it is not getting much better. Could I have done permanent nerve damage in my brain? At certain parts of the day i clear up and have no symptoms, but most of the day I am symptomatic. I find when I am not eating I am at my best, but my weight is now dangerously low. If you had any feelings of losing your mind (you did say you were "messed up"?).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475639245696641570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-88858867897683263282017-09-13T14:51:03.795-07:002017-09-13T14:51:03.795-07:00Hi James,
A ketogenic diet isn't any higher i...Hi James,<br /><br />A ketogenic diet isn't any higher in protein than the usual diet, and you can use foods like eggs and bacon (which is quite low in B6) or fish; it doesn't need to be fully ketogenic, you just need to be in ketosis some of the time, which is probably more tolerable at first than going strict keto. So you could do a long overnight fast, have bacon and eggs in a little butter at breakfast/lunch, then have a potato or such for carbs with your dinner - you'd only be interrupting ketosis once a day.<br />Definitely use some coconut oil or frozen grated coconut, but also use animal fats like butter, ghee or dripping (tallow), and avoid seed oils, sugar, and grains. Keep fruit to one piece a day, other than berries and tomatoes.<br />To boost your weight, cream is pretty good, and eat more fruit and root veges if you like; just try to get long windows between meals where you're not eating or not eating carbs as this is where the magic will happen. This should help brain fog too, it did for me.<br />I didn't get upticks with meat (or if I did I ignored them) and I actually took very low dose P5P supps sometimes, I would notice both good and bad effects from these - but they didn't stop me recovering.<br />The sensitivity to dietary B6 (or it could be a sensitivity to something you need better B6 function to detoxify) is a different order to the effects of supps - it's a minor fluctuation that will cease to be noticed as the blood level drops. It's like being splashed by the waves at high tide - they will reach you less and less as the tide goes out, till you no longer notice them.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-12125505153552398742017-09-13T03:12:20.098-07:002017-09-13T03:12:20.098-07:00Urba, Isabella, Dwayne,
Haqve any of you noticed ...Urba, Isabella, Dwayne,<br /><br />Haqve any of you noticed any improvements since your last comments on this site? Did any of you avoid any types of foods in particular and or find foods that a agreed with you? Or did you all just eat normally? if you had sensitivities did you just fight through them?<br /><br />Regards,<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475639245696641570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-16741828592338735302017-09-13T03:05:48.517-07:002017-09-13T03:05:48.517-07:00Hi Prof henderson.
I seem to be suffering from b6...Hi Prof henderson.<br /><br />I seem to be suffering from b6 overdose which I took at astronomical doses for about a week. Very stupid. I see that you suggest the Ketogenic diet. However, I find that when I eat meats high in b6 that the symptoms increase exponentially. I am worried that I am doing more damage. Did you notice an uptick in symptoms in this regard. Strangely i am also reacting badly to rice and oats. the problem is that I have lost much weight and I am on my last legs quite honestly. what can I eat to boost my weight? coconut oil? Most importantly I would like to know if you continued eating meats in spite of any upticks in symptoms?<br /><br />one last thing, was head fog, like a complete fishbowl over the head effect one of your symptoms? I feel like I struggle to interact with my family, like I am cognitively blurred. and if so did this go away at all, fairly quickly?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475639245696641570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-91414799745222415092017-09-13T02:31:58.710-07:002017-09-13T02:31:58.710-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05956018420688324893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-51534301954856534732017-09-13T02:29:44.032-07:002017-09-13T02:29:44.032-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05956018420688324893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-34850145720262224982017-09-04T20:50:05.846-07:002017-09-04T20:50:05.846-07:00I think I'm totally clear now.
The neuropathy...I think I'm totally clear now. <br />The neuropathy etc took a year or two to clear but the visual effect took longer.<br />I think fasting between meals really helps. I have 4-5 eggs in a little fat for breakfast (swap one for sardines or a piece of bacon now and then), late if possible, then nothing much until dinner, maybe a little bit of fruit or cheese, and try not to eat after.<br />I was never sensitive to food sources of B6 that I knew off, but certainly was to many grains and soy.Puddleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00953398103675945541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-40699274341670332672017-09-04T18:31:44.565-07:002017-09-04T18:31:44.565-07:00George, thanks for sharing your story and informat...George, thanks for sharing your story and information. <br /><br />I too have B6 toxicity and am only 5 months off of it now.<br /><br />How are you doing these days? Any type of symptoms/food sensitivities left? Kevin Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13641744904085276692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8550919611653842066.post-76051149436229164612017-08-11T17:26:42.710-07:002017-08-11T17:26:42.710-07:00Amazing that B6 or any of these vitamins are not r...Amazing that B6 or any of these vitamins are not regulated. Apparently, even if a multivitamin says 50mg Pyridoxine, there is no law that prohibits boosting that dosage for shelf life. The bottle I bought 18 months ago was made so that in another 15 months it will still have 50 mg Pyridoxine. Who knows how much I actually took even if they led me to believe it was only 50mg?<br /><br />I took a multi B Complex with at least 50 mg for 30 years or longer. Blood work in May 2016 showed my B6 plasma at about 9 times the normal upper limit. I was lucky. Gary Zeitlin, M.D., an internal medicine luminary thought I was deficient based on my symptoms and ordered B6 plasma test. Had he not been super intelligent who knows how many neurologists and others I would have been shuffled to.<br /><br />Feet numb, finger tips tingling, leg cramps, weak, tired.<br /><br />Stopped all supplements cold turkey. First month off I had puss coming out of my eyes each morning. Bloodshot eyes, issues with ears, throat, felt like a bad cold without the cold. Scary, freaky, bad bad bad stuff.<br /><br />Eyes are finally clear but were dry for a long time. Fingers no longer tingle. No more cramps. Feet a little prickly in the shower but much less than before. Maybe another 3 to 5 years before I am as good as can be expected following this nightmare.<br /><br />They still want to argue over how to cut health care costs. Maybe investing a little more in warning us about over the counter Pyridoxine toxicity might start a conversation. Followed by helping doctors understand that accidental vitamin overdosing is not uncommon and that a full blood chemistry should include B6 plasma. And possibly most importantly, require insurers to pay doctors when they talk to us about what we eat day in and day out since that will cut down on the prescriptions and surgeries our premiums cover.Urba Law PLLC : V. Jonas Urba, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07991135703904676908noreply@blogger.com